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When Your Body Holds an Unspoken Truth | Lina Lambertini on Healing, Identity & Embodiment
Content note: this episode includes a discussion of sexual abuse and an eating disorder.
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What if the symptoms you've been trying to fix are actually carrying a message you've never been able to hear?
In this deeply moving episode of The Stone in My Shoe, Debbie Thompson is joined by embodiment mentor and Ayurveda health consultant Lina Lambertini to explore the profound connection between our bodies, our stories, and the truths we haven't yet recognised.
After years of living with unexplained illness, emotional pain, and searching for answers, Lina discovered that the "stone in the shoe" she had been carrying wasn't simply physical—it was an unspoken truth her body had been holding all along.
Together, Debbie and Lina explore what it means to stop fighting our bodies and begin listening with curiosity, compassion, and courage. Their conversation is a gentle reminder that healing isn't about becoming someone different, it's about returning to who we've always been beneath the expectations, coping strategies, and stories we've carried.
In this episode you'll hear:
• Why the body often speaks before the mind understands.
• How unspoken truths can influence our health, relationships, habits, and nervous system.
• The powerful question that changed Lina's life:"Do I want to keep living like this?"
• Why true healing begins with understanding yourself, not fixing yourself.
• How knowing who you truly are can become the beginning of peace.
Whether you're navigating a midlife transition, questioning the life you've built, or simply sensing that something inside you is asking for attention, this conversation offers hope, wisdom, and a compassionate invitation to listen more deeply.
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I think that the stone industry is like such a beautiful metaphor where it describes, in my case, like an unspoken truth. And when there is an unspoken truth, the body starts picking it for you in different ways, in health, in nervous system, in relationships, in choices, right? In habits. So for me, it has been very interesting to also learn that it's not that, oh, I know what is my truth and I'm not speaking about this. Sometimes you actually don't know what is your truth.
And that's fine. And sometimes we have to go through very massive changes that make us our bodies to go first into the experience, many times guided by the mind. And when you arrive on the other side, we're like, wait a minute. Oh, after a year, I can feel everything that has happened. Hi, I'm Debbie Thompson. And this is A Stone in My Shoe, the podcast where we explore how midlife can become the most true purposeful and fulfilling chapter yet when we begin to listen to what's really
there. And today's guest is Lina Lambertini. Lina is an Ayurveda health consultant, embodiment mentor, meditation teacher, and founder of the art of embodiment method. She blends ancient wisdom with nervous system regulation, holistic nutrition, meditation and somatic practices to help people create new habits, cultivate a sense of safety within and build healthier relationships with themselves and achieve lasting health. Before, following this path, Lina worked as an interior architect specializing in neuro architecture and as an international model. Since then, she's been creating experiences that inspire healing, both within ourselves and in the spaces
around us. Welcome, Lina. Thank you, Debbie. Thank you for that beautiful introduction. Oh, it's lovely to have you. And I'm intrigued to know what a neuro architect is. For me, it's something that I feel very passionate about because I start studying architecture and actually I feel very passionate about the psychology of the spaces. So I was like, I don't want to build the container. I actually want to build how people feel. And neuro architecture is a whole quite like new tree arm of architecture nowadays. But then
I couldn't even put it a name. But I was saying, oh, I'm specializing in the psychology of the spaces. But neuro architecture is how this space is influencing my nervous system. So yeah, back then, I've been always super into creating atmosphere or designing experiences that can shift people living. And I think that's the most beautiful and powerful thing that we can do as humans to create things for a better life. And I love the fact that it's not just the space, it's how people feel in that space because feelings are so important in so much of what we do and how we behave and how we react to like is based on those feelings of which so many are subconscious. So we don't even know
that they're there. And by creating a space that really thinks about it, we're just giving so much more support to feeling stronger and better in all those positive emotions. Yeah, definitely. I have the theory that many people, when they create things, it's very beautiful to create it from a place of how can I create an impact around me, a positive impact, right? A lot of architecture and like all these very traditional studies, medicine, many things are coming from either a book or from an egocentric point of view. I'm going to build this in this way to have the level of my name there and to put in
my curriculum. And I think that I was always against of those kind of things. It's always about how can I create something that is also in service of others. That's beautiful. Before we get into the stone and your story, just so that the woman listening can get to know a little bit more about you, where are you in this season of your life and what feels most important to you now? That's a very beautiful question. In a season in my life where I'm just looking for a lot of groundiness, I just feel like for many years, at least for my last 10 years, I've been in this kind of like laundry of changing and transforming and putting so much energy,
so much vitality. In Ayurveda, we call it the pitta age. It's the age of fire. We want to use our fire to create, to, of course, it's also our fertility peak. So that energy needs to go somewhere else. But now, I'm in a moment, I'm like, all right, I already went through all that laundry. I already started cultivating. A lot of things are very meaningful for me that is not through my ego or not through what was suspected many times. It's more about, this is me, this is how I've been living my life lately. You can find full transparency and
I can go there, but I will always try to come back to myself. And I think that's the exercise that I'm in, in this moment, as a woman. So what I'm hearing from you is prior to that, in your fire, it sounded very energetic, very creative, very powerful. And in that was a laundry of turbulence, of finding out who you were. But the turbulence also created great power to create things. And it sounds now that things are just a bit more settled, almost like you're in a beautiful bay of quiet water. Is that, am I understanding that correctly? Yes, that's perfect. I think that there is, of course, it's like, it's natural process of life, right? Sometimes I always say we become
students when we are ready to become students. We can be trying to learn many things here in many years. But then there is one day that we are like, oh, now I have the clarity. Now I understand and I embody this. And of course, for that, as an involvement facilitator, I do believe that we need experiences to fully understand what is clear in me. And I think that I'm actually in my last kind of year. I start getting closer to that clarity is something that it comes and goes. It's like, for everyone, it's like, sometimes we are clear about something. And then the next day, life can happen. And that can create some ready direction about your life.
But yeah, it's been this kind of like calm bay, life outside. No, it's still turbulent. And there is a lot going on. But that calm bay is actually the nervous system. It's actually when you are like, I'm living all these strong emotions. I'm going through these very big changes. But I can still feel calm and in my body. That's beautiful. And I think you're absolutely right because outside the harbor, there's all sorts of stuff going on, right? And it's maintaining the calm that actually is a nice segue because it wasn't always like this, I'm assuming. And so I just wanted to take you back to, we're going to talk about the stone in your shoe.
And if you had to name that stone or describe it, what would it be? Because often is this story and then there's the stone as well, that's foundational to understanding what was happening in turbulence outside. Exactly. I think that the stone in the shoe is like such a beautiful metaphor where it describes, in my case, like an unspoken truth. And when there is an unspoken truth, the body starts picking it for you in different ways, in health, in nervous system,
in relationships, in choices, right? In habits. So for me, has been very interesting to also learn that it's not that, oh, I know what is my truth and I'm not speaking about this. Sometimes you actually don't know what is your truth. And that's fine. And sometimes we go through, sometimes we have to go through very massive changes that make us our bodies to go first into the experience, many times guided by the mind. And when you arrive on the other side, we're like, wait a minute. Oh, okay. After a year, I can feel everything that has happened.
So I think that in my personal story, this stone in my shoe have been some accumulation of nervous system reactions or messages that my body couldn't find that calm sensation to just pick out my truth. So yeah. That is so powerful because stone in your shoe being unspoken truth is something that all of us can relate to. And you're so right in some truths can be easier to see. Some take a very long time. And as you said earlier, the tea, you learn when
you're ready. And it could have shown up in various stories in your relationships, in your health, in your... So the stone is trying to talk to you. It's trying to say, I'm in your shoe and, yes, you can keep walking, but this is uncomfortable. And the relationship fails, but you don't look and look into your shoe and look at the stone. You go, what's that? I'll explain it out to whatever. And it keeps going till one day, all these unspoken truths accumulate together to create a huge big stone to say, Lina, enough. Is that what happened to you or was yours just lots of stones talking to you? I have... If I sit now looking backwards, there were many times
that were like, enough. But yes, sometimes you're not ready to go deeper into that enough. And it had happened to me that there was a moment that I have to stand up for myself and say, okay, wait a minute. Do I want this? Keep living my life, not this thing's life. And there there is a shift of perspective already. You step out from whatever is going on for whatever story is happening and you start living your life. That, of course, demands responsibility
and that demands as well to go through the middle of the storm, to know that you had to process a lot of deep things. But what is awaiting for you on the other side is something more real to you. The thing is with a lot of people, change is hard and doing something differently or going deep because when you go deep and you look at things differently, it's not all just going to be a rosy, lovely journey. There's going to be stuff that comes up. So for a lot of people, unless the stone gets really sharp or you get to the point where your curiosity and your courage and you're sick of living, not terribly, but just on the... In a place it doesn't make you
really happy. So I'm just intrigued about that is, was it a bit of both those things together that made you step aside, step outside and start looking in and seeing the story that you were living in this... I guess what meaning you were making from the events that have happened in the stones that you were carrying. Sorry, that's a lot of questions. No, that's fine. So I think that for me, I'm trying to organize when I was younger, I have always and still till the day of today, I carry... I would say I would see the light at the end of the tunnel, like always. It can be
something very bad happening, but I just feel that I had lost the fear of darkness, right? Because I know how does it feel to be in a dark space. So first of all, I think that many people, as long as they sense the darkness, they escape. And that is already something that is different. But in my case, because I was always guided by this light, so imagine that you keep walking by guided through that light, right? Yes, I was aware of things. I was having impact in my body along my... Just to give you an idea, when I was five years old, I had a virus in my cerebellum. So already when I was five years old, my body was reacting through my immune system,
letting my defense to drop because there was something that was needing to be spoken. My life kept carrying. I kept going. Of course, I was a teenager eating disorders. My body kept telling me something, but it was an eating disorder where I knew that something was off. It's not that I wasn't having... Normally, you have some kind of distortion of reality. For me, I was like, wait a minute. I'm very aware of my reality. I know that something is going on in my body. I know that I'm not having good habits. I know that everyone around me is worried about me.
So I was like, this is very weird, because if I know, my consciousness, I know. But then my actions cannot be changed. So I'm not having better results. Or I'm having better results. I get better, but then I drop again. And for me, I was like, okay, this is strange. And the most interesting thing is that my spirit was never down. I was very uplifted all the time. I was very... Nothing was in my spirit pushing me in a dark space, even though physically
I was in the dark space. This is like a dissociation, right? And in body and mind, we call it dissociation. The mind is in one way, the body is in another, and my spirit is in another. So I was like, what's going on that Lina feels this way? Trust in life in this way has faith, light, a whole inner world. I always had... I had cultivated my inner world in a way that it felt like a very good place to be in. It's not that I felt inside dead or something that was off. But then my mind was trying to control. It was all the time putting me out from this
aligned life, from this associated between my body and my spirit. Sounds like... So you can imagine the amount of psychologists and nutritionists, things in my life that were like up and down all the time. It has shaped my relationship with myself. It has shaped the relationship with my surroundings. It has shaped school trips, time that I have spent with my friends, behaviors. My family many times were knowing what was going on. I would be and know what was going on. And it was always overexplained by science. So, all right, lucky I could. I have been always,
since I was very young, since I was 14, 15 years old, very in touch to spirituality. So since then I was meditating, doing yoga, very, again nourishing my inner world. And it was when I was 23 years that I got the opportunity to travel to India. It was in 2019. When I went to India, I was... I can say that I was in a moment that I felt great with myself. I was out of my teenage, I was out of those conflictual moments. I was also living alone in a
different city, so I was more independent. I could say I was building the woman that I wanted little by little, right? Already 20s is still quite young, but I went to India, which was, of course, my dream since I was very young, because since I was very young, I don't know how, but I was decorating my house, sorry, my bedroom as if it were like Indian style. And I went to India because of modeling in that moment, to experience bodywood. And I was going to stay three months, but I stayed one year. I had a great, successful year in my life. I was living through... In the moment I put in post architecture and I was actually living my other
passion. For me, modeling is my art. It's a way that I can express my body independently to fashion industry, which fashion industry I would say it runs in one way, but my art runs in a different way. And yeah, I was super fulfilled. I was like, wow, this is how does it feel to live my dream? Everything went great. Until middle of that year, I got an infection. I got something in my gut. I was all the time again, my immune system responding very bad. And doctors didn't know what I was having. Imagine I was alone in a country
that didn't speak my language, not even English because I'm a Spanish speaker. And I was feeling so in survival because I was living there for working. So if I was one whole month sick, that means I couldn't work enough to pay back what the agency was paying for me. So there was like some kind of pressure, apart from the fact that I was feeling very lonely. And I couldn't have around me the tools, the enough tools. And I'd land in very bad hands. If that's something that I can say,
I land hands that it was helpful in the moment, but it only allows me to keep going. What are those bad hands? One hand medicine. I was giving a lot of medicine. I wasn't getting better. I was just shutting down all the time. I was having temperature fever like 40 degrees, fainted in the hospitals. They were changing the medicine. So imagine that if a body is consuming so much medicine, also not used to, because the environment is something very different to my environment where I was born. Pollution, food quality, water quality,
a nervous system in reaction all the time because I was like, it's not that I can go and lay down in my mom's arms, right? It's like the body is in danger. You have to protect yourself. And I just have a lot of symptoms in my body, like liquid retention. I started having problems in my gut. I felt even like I had put on weight probably, but it was all sensations, right? And then I found someone that helped me, but it wasn't actually helping me. It was a toxic relationship. It was something that became even more alert for my body. So I was like, all right, everything is happening in this moment. I can't get out. I can't take a
flight right now because I wasn't feeling strong enough to do it. I was trying to look for help at distance, but also I couldn't communicate properly. Yeah, I finally decided to go back home to Argentina. This was before pandemic. And whenever I went to Argentina, I was like, I don't want my body having this impact anymore. What's going on? What's going on that I let these people, this person get in my life, that I'm giving them the power to do something with me? What is happening with my nervous system that is in this survival mode where feels that
cannot ask for help, the feels that has to survive and protect itself all the time. And what is also happening that I'm having still very strong health consequences. And it was in that moment that, as I mentioned at the beginning, I stepped out of myself. I was like, am I going to take responsibility of this stone? Yeah, that's so much going on. There were parts of it that you were thriving. You left big teenage angst was behind you. You were going to India trying Bollywood. Everything was going
so well. And then your body, because you always talk about your body, not betraying you, but letting you down. But I think just from what I'm hearing it wasn't, it was actually trying to protect you. It was trying to give you a message. And it had to be almost shouting from the rooftops, listen to me, because the subtle things previously, you could shake them away, can't you? Put them down to various things. Get yourself back up again. Get your energy up. And then, as you said, you would fall, not fall back down again, but the same thing would emerge again. So the problem, the stone wasn't being removed, it was just being shifted around your shoe. So you get back to Argentina and you go,
enough, I need to step back and see what's going on. So what did you discover? Makes sense that I was going to do that back in Argentina, because we all need to go back to some kind of nest or at least safe environment where we can do it right. So I wasn't sure what was going to come in my life in that moment when I stepped out from just living. And back then I was having, of course, my coach, my mentors. I've been always a person that has a lot of mentors from different perspectives. I like to have my NLP mentor. I'm a UB consultant,
but I do have my referral, right? Like astrologists, for example, I love everything. So in that moment, there was something that my mentor was like, hey, okay, let's do this. Let's explore what is behind. And I started exploring, but of course what I found wasn't pleasant. It was the discovery of three sexual abuses. And that was something that imagine receiving, not receiving, but facing your real truth after living 23 years of your life, 24 years in a way. And then you're like,
whoa, wait a minute, this has a name. And I think that even though I was taking that perspective of myself and feeling strong to be in church, there is not many people that can resist the impact of something like that. So something that I thought, okay, this is the end or the beginning actually was the beginning of a very dark moment in my life, but very real. Very honest, very transparent with myself. And what was the dark side? That yes, I agree. My body
always has been the strongest. My body has always been a very strong element all along the journey. And that's why I'm feeling very, I didn't feel very passionate about my body. If you think about, I had designed spaces for the bodies more in, I've been modeling using my body as a way to express art. And now I'm an employment facilitator, but because for me, my body has been the strongest instrument and bridge in my life. So I always say this, the solution of the pain is in the pain in itself. And the dark side of uncovering my truth in that moment was that I
wasn't ready. No one is ready. I was going to say, when you ever ready to discover something like that because your body was so powerful. And it was the thing, as you said, so much of your life and what you did around it. And yet it was the thing that was abused. Yes. It's the dark and the lightness, isn't it? It's the yin and the yang and holding those two together in the same time with compassion and love. But gosh, there's so much darkness and so much light. Gosh, leader, that's a huge amount for anyone to carry in. Yeah, how are you? When is anyone ever ready? Yeah, no one. And I think that, of course, we want to keep going in life.
I was like, how can I go out of my house and leave this new truth about myself? What happened before this? Who I was? Who I am for my family? Right? Who I am for the relationships? So it's very interesting what started happening. And yet the most difficult part in that moment was that I think that my body really dropped. It was waiting that moment to fall until that moment I was like holding it. I lost 10 kilos. I got depressed. I was having panic attacks. I was having
insane amount of nightmares. You may imagine what kind of nightmares because I was all the time feeling the impact of this truth. So yeah, the most beautiful thing about it in this like, it's difficult to say because I think that not many people would ever understand it. It just gives me so much peace. I felt peace. Is that peace because you understood now while your body had this unspoken truth that it needed to get out? And now that it was out, it was in the open. It was no longer in the shadows. There was a peace that you could deal with it and
live with it and carry on with your life because it wasn't in your body controlling you. I don't know. Exactly. I think that peace comes. I always had this feeling, especially when, you know, when the time and space gets still, there is moments in my life, situations that all that feels like a line merge the body, the time and the space. And what happened there, there's the real deep breath that gives me peace. And by knowing who I am truly gave me all the tools that I was needing to return to live in my life. Yeah, that is so profound. It's almost like
we are made up of so many things and all the unspoken truths need to come to the surface so we know who we are. And we can see ourselves fully in the dark, the light and whatever, however we want to describe that, but it's seeing ourselves fully and accepting and loving ourselves from that space, not trying to fix, but going I'm whole exactly as I am. Is that kind of how you were feeling? Yeah, that's how I feel and also makes me emotional because that's how I want everyone to feel that has been the initiation of my purpose. It has always been my purpose.
Since the day I came to this life, I always say I came with a very strong body because I could cut and break down a whole generational trauma. This is not coming from me. This is coming from many generations. My family, Latin America, my surroundings. So for me, the peace was like, hey, all right, I know who I am. I'm not going to stay there because now that I know who I am, I want to do so many things. And the beautiful thing is that I didn't jump from stages. I focus, before speaking my truth, I focus just to, I don't like to say the word heal. I like to say
to understand myself before communicating, before sharing, before including people to my process. First is me. And that was a decision that I'm very proud that I took in that moment because sometimes you feel like, oh my God, how to share this and how to, yeah, sometimes it's important. But I didn't want my parents to feel pain because of my pain. Or I didn't want to assume, I had always had the role of caring for my surrounding. That's my nature. So wait, this is the moment that I have to take care of myself. And only from that space, I can share it. I can teach it. I can guide. And not just the people
that I guide today. It all starts with my sister, with my cousin, with my mom, with the masculine figure around me. So we always think that it always goes to the people out there. You know, it actually starts in our pairs. And I think that's something that I really, I really like how with like gentleness, I start like a rebuilding little by little my life. Of course, it was a shift of direction, probably. I couldn't keep going with my architecture because there was a deeper calling. There was something that, okay, just, yes, it was about the
spaces before, but now it's actually about the person that I'm speaking to. And yeah, I, like, of course, like when I drop into that dark side, then I embrace the light even stronger. And since then has been like, what, seven years, more or less. And it's a, it has been a very slow process. It took me around two years to get out from like a kind of danger zone, like physically, to regulate my nervous system. That's where I heal myself through Ayurveda, with Ayurveda.
I remove everything, because for me, it's like I, I own or psychologist, nutritionist, doctors, they have their role. But when we treat with deep traumas, when we treat with PTSD, when we treat with things that goes beyond illness, of course, like nowadays I work with bio decoding. For me, it's very important to know that there is not every case, but most of the cases, a real cause. And that doesn't mean that the illness can be healed, but at least can be understood differently and build a new meaning. So as humans, we are pursuing meaning all the time.
We need meaning, you know. Yeah. You know, and I love the way you said that it's the meaning, right? Because really terrible things happened as happened to you. And as a young child, there's no responsibility, life happens. And it's the meaning that we create around that event and holding on to that meaning and how, how hard it is, but how rewarding it is to shift and change the meaning. And as you said, it took you two years of getting out of the danger zone. This is not something that happens overnight. It's, it's hard work. And you also came from a place where you naturally saw the light. You were very spiritual anyway. You had a lot of
mentors along the way. So you had quite a strong foundation. You had this light and your spiritual side. And yet your, this deep trauma was being held in your body and your body was trying to over time tell you the unspoken truth. I guess what I'm trying to say is that without that, it would be, I'm, I'm thinking very difficult for somebody else to get that trauma out of their body, out of their cells, into the light and make new meaning from it. Yeah. Yeah. It is, it's a change in your life. It's, it's a real embodied change. Sometimes we are used to
just keep passing from pages and chapters. Oh, I moved from country. Oh, I do this. But three, that was a real rebirth. And you cannot be who you were saying that you were. But yes, like I, I always been very surprised. I would say I have angels around me and they kept keep me accountable with myself. And I think that nowadays we are in a boom of coaching, mentoring, spirituality and this and that. And I would say it's so important that whoever we choose to walk in our life with, that it's not about a transactional thing. It's not that I'm hiring
someone in order to know you're actually choosing someone to keep you accountable of yourself. And I suppose it all changes. As you change, you need different people to work with to keep you accountable and probably to ask you different questions and challenge you in different ways. And as you said earlier, right at the beginning is you're only ready kind of when you're ready, you're ready to learn. And maybe it was maybe going to India was the thing that was the final push. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe it would have been something else. But the interesting thing that I hear this a lot with people is they get the message as the stones been trying to talk to them over years and years. And often it's a huge event that happens where it's enough. No more
you cannot ignore this anymore. And it's a journey through the dark side and but then the light that you get when you clear all that stuff away is probably more profound and more palp than anything you could have imagined prior to the event. Yeah, it's real. That's real. It's authentic. And it's authentic. Yeah, I think that's why the piece. And yeah, people who knows me, they know that my battles they had known they had seen me growing. And the moment that I click, they also were like, whoa, it has that kind of like effect around you
where you also help others to click with themselves. So yeah, this is the level of awareness I'd like to bring always. And my my mission, my purpose in everything that I do is to always share that it is possible to feel safe again in our bodies, independently to whatever story had happened, either traumas, either health issues, relationships, things abuses. Maybe it's like a blind trap that I have. It requires a lot of work. It requires definitely to put ourselves in a very uncomfortable place. But there is where the stone stop being the stone.
It's only when we go through. Sometimes we feel like we're in that threshold and are we in or out? Are we still the version that we were or are we embracing something new? And these I see it in most of my clients habits. And I treat them with so much love and care because at the end, no one needs like a prescription, which says, do this, you saw you will get that. No. Actually, everyone needs gentleness and needs love and needs to soothe into whatever body experience we are having. We are already very stimulated on dos and don'ts and what's correct, what is incorrect. We have so much information,
but the idea is always to go back to our source. Yeah. You know, one of the foundations, I have three words that I live by, and they are curiosity, courage and compassion, the curiosity of what's going on here? Why am I feeling this way? And then the courage to actually do the work. Because as you said, sometimes you go into dark places, but then it's about being compassionate to yourself and that we're all a work in progress and we take two steps backwards sometimes, step forward and it's okay because when you said those two years in the middle, I'm sure you were like, am I becoming this person? Why am I stuck here? And then after the two years, you were there and you were never going back to that
person. But in the middle, there was a time of deep compassion because that was the time of changing. And wow, I just, I love your analogies, I love your story because that was a particularly the body, the abuse in the body, the two things and that it was supposed to be so powerful and yet it was the one talking to you and betraying you, but it wasn't. It was the thing that was protecting you. There are just so many elements here and it just shows you how beautiful and complicated, not complicated, that's the wrong word, but intertwined life is and yeah. So I'm just wondering, was there any belief that you had about yourself that you
replaced after the stone was revealed and shattered? Many, share them. Many. One is, yes, at the beginning you believe you will never feel safe again. I think that's why I am, I'm in this mission with others because I'm in this calm bay as we have said at the beginning where by being calm doesn't mean perfect. It just means calm. And I think that even that even now I say that makes me emotional because I think that's a very strong belief. Another very
strong belief, oh my god, and I think that this goes through so many people, the belief of identifying with that illness, with that identifying with a symptom. Oh my god, that's so complicated. We all carry that belief and it took me 23 years of feeling sick in the body to face it and say, I don't want this. And it just felt, it wasn't that simple, but I can see around me when I treat, for example, women's hormones, how many women we stop believing that they can be mothers because of their story, because of
feeling not safe in the body, because of having issues in the hormones, but those who it leaves then creates a reality. And I think that's so important nowadays as well, because I'm going back a little bit when you said India, then you were the medicine and treating your mind and your body as two separate things, but they're so entwined as is your super conscious and your subconscious and all of these things have an impact. And yeah, I think, I know somebody very close to me who identifies with their illness and it's what makes, runs their life and you're like, I wish you could just, but letting that identity go is scary because then you're untethered and who are you and you've got to go into the stormy waters and before you can get into
the calm bay because right now you're tethered to a boat of some type, aren't you? And that's your illness. Yeah. And the thing is that when we identify with that, we keep looking for quick solutions. I have even, I have a client, she was just about to pay whole fertility treatment because she didn't believe in her body. So we reached to these points where also creates different kinds of stress in our lives or sometimes we numb ourselves because we don't want to feel that identification. Yeah. I think you're totally right about numbing and how do we do it in our modern world? We stay busy, Netflix, phones, there are so many things that we can just numb ourselves because being quiet and listening to those stones that have probably shown
themselves numerous times is challenging. But I just, before we finish up, I just want to do so much has happened in your life and there's so many, so many truths that you've said. But if there is somebody listening and she recognises some of the stones in herself, what would you gently encourage her to become curious about? There is few things, this is either for men or for women, both has a different way to approach, but I would say it doesn't cost anything in our daily life to create a five minute register with ourselves. I call it the three layer checking. How am I feeling mentally?
How am I feeling physically? And how am I feeling emotionally? When you can have that perspective in my day, whatever is happening after that, at least I know how I'm feeling in these layers. It doesn't mean that the three layers has to be cooperating between them. Sometimes, yes, sometimes they are going in opposite directions, but they're just facing and bringing awareness in something so simple. It creates little by little a different path towards a change. So that curiosity of what is going on in these three aspects of myself, no judgment, just I'm curious to see what's going on. And then from that comes a slightly different way of looking at
the world and things. And then you might be ready then for that teacher to learn that whatever it is that you need to learn, whereas when you're not in that open curious what's going on, perhaps the teacher's there, perhaps the lessons there, but you're just not aware of it, right? The thing is that many people just stay with information that their minds give them. I have to do this. This is the routine I follow. This is the way that I was set to it. This is the training I create for myself. But when you wake up, maybe your body is just needing something completely different. Maybe you wake up and you're actually going through something emotional. Are you going to lie to yourself? Are you going to keep your mental plan?
It's a choice. You can keep the mental plan, but by already registering, where are the other two layers of yourself? Then at least you can say, all right, physically I'm feeling this way. I can't lie to myself. I'm going to do this. I'm going to try. So changing habits start from that very simple thing to have a better relationship with the stone. It starts also in that register. It doesn't start from the big things. People think that, oh my God, I have a huge problem and I had to go from zero to 100. No, you will never get to the 100. So it starts in the 1% we can do
in each day. I love that. And I think you're absolutely right. It's a small thing down a consistent basis. The 1% today that just compounds and that's where, because everyone goes, it's a magic pill. There is no magic pill. The magic pill, the magic is in the compounding of doing the 1% today consistently. Lina, thank you so much. Thank you so much. I couldn't be talking for hours. I know. I was thinking that as well. I was thinking, oh me too. But so much wisdom, so much authenticity, so much power in what you've done. And I've learned so much as well is that the thing you think is letting you down is actually the thing that is actually been trying to tell you the whole time. Yeah, so it's incredibly powerful and it
can seem contradictory for the person listening today. As you finish listening today, perhaps there's a moment you recognise something in yourself. And if there was, stay curious. Because sometimes another woman's story helps you finally see your own. And Lina, thanks again for being on the podcast and thank you so much everyone for listening. Thank you so much baby. Thank you.
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